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this is cnn breaking news. hello, everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm michaela pereira. >> breaking news. 43 united nations peacekeepers were detained this morning in the golan heights. israeli military official with knowledge of the situation tells cnn the peacekeepers were taken by the al nusra front, the syrian rebel group with links to al qaeda. we'll have more as information becomes available. u.n. peacekeepers have been monitoring that area in golan for almost 40 years now, since the war in 1973. but now obviously caught in the middle of the larger conflict raging right now in syria. also happening at this hour, major escalation in the crisis between russia and ukraine. u.s. official telling cnn as many as 1,000 russian troops
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with tank, armored personnel carriers and heavy weapons are now fighting inside ukraine. including a strategic town along the country's southern coast. >> one ukrainian military official is warning this is a full-scale russian invasion. our diana magnay joins us from ukraine. barbara starr with us from the pentagon. diana, i'll start with you. 1,000 troops amassing. that sounds like an invasion on our end. what are you learning there? >> well, it's difficult to see this invasion as such. we've been driving down this road directly towards the russian border behind me and this checkpoint that you can make out in the distance really is the last ukrainian presence, the land beyond that, and we drove some 20 kilometers is really there for the taking. we know that the town which is about 30 k in that direction has been taken by a mixture of
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pro-russian rebels and russian forces. the ukrainian national security council tells us they have pushed these ukrainian units out of the town. down there we spoke to the battalion that have been pushed out. there's been a lot of talk that the russians are trying to push west towards this major coastal town of mariupol. no evidence at all of that and there is a major up crane yan -- ukrainian road block. 1,000 troops which nato says are on this side of the border along a huge stretch of the border about 450 kilometers to the main area of the rebel held territory, 1,000 troops isn't very much and certainly difficult for us to see them. but a major escalation if you consider that now towns on this side of the border are bng taken by russian forces. >> all right. diana magnay in ukraine, thank you very much. bring in barbara starr at the
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pentagon. you are hearing from u.s. officials about what they are hearing and seeing what the intelligence is telling them. >> that's right, good morning john and michaela. u.s. intelligence began to gather information and assesses that now overnight about 1,000 troops have moved into this southern area and there may be now a total of upwards of 2,000 russian forces inside ukraine. what officials are telling us are these are regular russian forces. no separatists, no rebels. this is, you know, the real deal. russian troops with russian waepgs. a short time ago, nato released a number of satellite images that it has collected over the last many days showing russian forces on the move. i want to show everybody just one of them. this shows a russian artillery convoy moving across into eastern ukraine. the reason nato says they know these are russian forces, not ukraine forces, this is an area where ukraine forces have no
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control where they are not located, only russian troops are there. you see at the top of your screen, those black dots. that essentially a convoy of russian artillery. the u.s. ambassador to ukraine just a few hours ago, tweeted this. i want to read it to everybody. this is what the u.s. thinks the current state of play is. the ambassador saying russia supplied tank, armored vehicles, artillery and multiple rocket launchers have been insufficient to defeat ukraine's armed forces. so now an increasing number of russian troops are intervening directly in the fighting on ukrainian territory. we are also told the russians have moved in very long range anti-air equipment, anti-air weapons. that is their move to try to keep the ukrainian air force from taking to the skies to fight them that way. john? >> barbara, the pentagon obviously keeping a keen eye on this. is it likely that they're going
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to take any action? >> well, that is a question. you know, this couldn't come, perhaps, at a more awkward time for president obama. he travels next week to the nato sum mitt in wales. russia and ukraine were already going to be topic number one. don't expect to see a lot of new u.s. military moves. there's support for the ukrainian military. some delivery for tents and uniforms. a lot of movement of u.s. troops in europe to conduct more exercises and training with east european allies. there are the sanctions against russia. right now, this is very tough to see a way ahead. here in the pentagon hallways you hear the word invasion, you hear the word incursion. but the white house still yet to weigh if on this very publicly today. michaela, john. >> barbara starr, currently very concerning. diana magnay as well, thank you for that.
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>> rushsia might be tied to a hacking attack. on jpmorgan chase. financial institutions in the u.s., banks. the fbi not only considers this a major breach but a national security matter. the agency is working with the u.s. secret service on the investigation. >> we're joined by christine romans, cnn's chief business correspondent and anchor of "early start." you've been doing digging on this. >> a lot going on here. the fbi very clear that they don't know where this attack emanated from. they have not said specificallies this is from russia. they are concerned and investigating. looks like it was jpmorgan and several other banks as well. this is -- they got in there and a lot of data. they got information in there. jp moorgen telling us companies of our size unfortunately experience cyber attacks every day. multiple layers of defense and monitor fraud levels. they say so far they have not seen any unusual fraud activity at this time.
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jpmorgan hasn't. this is a sophisticated hack that comes at a time, obviously, with political reasons, with sanctions, these banks are the -- people have to carry out the sanctions in some cases against russia. it's that timing that has cyber security experts looking at russia. >> not because they have any other evidence -- >> russian fingerprints. >> the cyber people are saying they don't see the fingerprints yet. that's what the investigation is for. here's the thing, jim lewis, at the center for strategic international studies russia does this better than anybody else, especially against the banks. that is their primary target. usually financially related. a lot of people looking at things, oil and gas trading information, m and a activity, things that russian intelligence might be interested in, things that can go to the highest bidder on the black market. >> what about my bank account? >> jpmorgan tells us they don't see unusual fraud activity at this time. it's a reminder of how you have to protect yourself.
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make sure your passwords are up to date. use the double authentication where you have like a key code and another memorized number to use. >> sounds way more sophisticated. >> it is. that's the thing here. jpmorgan spends $250 million a year, 1,000 people trying to keep this safe and security experts tell me the banks are the safest industry in america. not like the retailers and not like some of the hospitals or retailers. they're the worst. the banks are the strongest. spending a lot of money because it is a national security issue. >> thanks so much. >> you're welcome. >> i'm sure you're probably talking about this around your office or home. let us know how you're protecting yourself. get in on the conversation on facebook. >> all right. ahead for us "at this hour," the u.s. launches new air strikes against isis. as residents of one iraqi town find themselves surrounded by militants. >> and in syria rebels say douglas mccain wasn't the only american they killed in recent fighting against isis. that claim, plus terrorists recruiting efforts in the american heartland.
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the list of americans fighting and dying alongside islamist militants in the middle east is growing. we're learning more about douglas mccain the 33-year-old man from minnesota who was killed last weekend fighting for isis in syria. now the same syrian opposition
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groups claiming that they killed mccain in battle are saying they killed a second american isis fighter, though, as of now they're not naming him. the state department is investigating this. there is also this 22-year-old from florida who took part in a suicide bombing this year in northern syria. >> add to that more disturbing details emerging, the "new york daily news" reporting a classmate of douglas mccain at that suburban minneapolis high school died in 2009 fighting for a terrorist group in somalia. ted rowlands joins us now from minneapolis and there's significance to why you are in minneapolis as we know. we'll talk about that in a second. first, tell us more about what we are learning about this young man, this 33-year-old douglas mccain. mccain and the other video troy castgarr who died in 2009 fighting in somalia were high
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school friends, played basketball together, went to the same high school in suburban minneapolis here and the "new york daily news" which you mentioned did interview the mother of castgarr, troy castgarr, yesterday and she talked about the relationship between mccain and her son and said that they both were sort of searching, it seemed like. i think both of them had a really strong desire to be needed and be of value. it's fascinating that two young men who went to the same high school ended up dying the same way and that is as a recruited fighter for an extremist group. they were different groups, isis who mccain was fighting for and castgarr was fighting for al shabaab in in somalia in 2009, but obviously they knew each other, group up together. what we don't know if they continued to speak through the years after high school and what that relationship was. but as you mentioned this is an area that is heavily focused for
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recruiters for fighters. >> it's a large somali population there as well. what are people there now saying about this, ted? it's alarming when you see a 33-year-old guy who grows up in a town like minneapolis. >> an american kid. >> killed in syria fighting for a terrorist group? >> yeah. and it's overwhelming to see that it's more of this happening. there are kids that are being heavily recruited. in fact, there is a video out there that is targeted just to the twin cities. it's a video that is asking basically for minnesotans to be martyrs called minnesota martyrs and they -- the video is part of this recruitment which really does frustrate people here. the fbi is absolutely involved in it. and it is a big concern here and across the country. >> ted rowlands with the latest from minnesota, thank you so much for that. now to iraq and fears of an
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imminent massacre by the hands of isis, how a u.n. official is describing the horror that thousands of iraqis are facing right now. this as president obama considers more air strikes. >> so this time the crisis is emerging in a new town, new focus called amerli populated by turkmen shiites, religious and ethnic minorities. isis fighters have laid serge, knocking out power, food, water, and medical services. iraqi security forces are working they say to free the residents. this as the united states is weighing a new round of humanitarian air drops like the ones we saw in mount sinjar. >> more religious and ethnic minorities there waiting to see what happens to them. ana corwin is erbil. back with us, mark hertling. thank you for joining us both. an ana, let's start with you. we know u.s. war planes carried
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out three air strikes in erbil. give us the latest of what you're seeing and hearing and experiencing on the ground. >> well, certainly up here in northern iraq, those air strikes are continuing and making significant difference on the battlefield. it's forcing the isis militants to change their tactics, but certainly down in ameli the town you are talking about we've got word there are iraqi military reinforcements coming to the aid of those local police. the volunteers within that township who have taken up arms to try to fight off those militants who, mind you, are at the gates of this township. they've cut off water, cut off power. we're hearing reports from say the turkmen foundation who has family, friends, within the area that dozens of children have died as a result of starvation, of dehydration. the situation is dire.
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so that call went out from a u.n. a few days ago, talking about a possible massacre. the iraqi promised to designate also appealing for help for the u.s. air strikes, perhaps to be expanded, to cater for ameli but that has not happened as of yet. >> that's interesting, considering a new round of humanitarian air strikes in iraq at the same time they're weighing their options in syria. want to bring in general mark hertling here. general, the president will meet at the white house today with his national security team. he meets in the afternoon. there's been a fair amount of talking. supporters of the president say this shows he's trying to come up with a measured response and be patient to come up with the right answer. his critics will say, you know, it's too little too late and it is time for action. from a military standpoint how much time do you have? because clearly isis knows the u.s. is considering air strikes now in syria. >> well, it is an ongoing operation, john.
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that's a great question. i think ana's report on amerli, and the nearby towns, the early mission that the president gave was to prevent humanitarian crises. there are several other groups like the yazidis, we talked about them for a long time, now we have the turkmen. there's also the calldeens and syrians and many, many more. amerli is a hotbed of turkmen population. i've been to that town before. it's unlike the yazidi crisis because there's no mountain to climb up to get away from the isis fighters. there is going to be a requirement to continue to support the iraqi military, the peshmerga as they try to relieve this humanitarian crisis in this relatively small town. >> and we've talked about it, but i think it bears repeating we talk about the fact that there are these jihadis from other countries joining the isis forces. i want you to tell me what you think the future looks like and how that complicates in this there were to be boots on the
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ground? >> well, from the standpoint of isis and recruiting, it is -- it's a sexy appeal to jihad diss all over the world, come here to fight, they love doing that. i think as this fight continues what you're going to see is a continued turn away from this radical extremist group. remember, there's 11 million people in northern iraq from baghdad to the syrian turkish border. 11 million people. not all of them, in fact a great majority, run counter to what isis is going to do. i personally think this group is going to wear themselves out. there's going to be action against them as the iraqi government gets their act together and it seems like they're doing that now. the peshmerga are getting new energy and continuing this fight. so i think you're going to see a lot of jihadis going there and a lot of jihadis eventually being killed. >> why such confidence, jen until. >> i'm sorry? >> why such confident in that. it's interesting you say you think they're going to kind of run out of steam. what makes you believe that? >> my confidence is based on my
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experience with the people in northern iraq. these are good people. i mean they want freedom. they want peace. they want to get their kids to schools. they want to have their businesses thriving. and the isis attack is disrupting all that. you're seeing probably a lot of baathists coming in as well. the military approach. they're getting some of that from the former baathists. it's a different organization. but i think the good people of northern iraq are going to have a similar event like the awakening like we saw in 2006 and 2007 and 2008 and they're going to begin to push these people back because they are so radic radical. it's going to take a long time. this is not going to happen fast. >> before that happens there is more chaos. i want to leave you with a note we are getting reports this morning battles raging in the oil fields near mosul. do you have an update on how that's going right now? >> yeah. we spoke to officials, john, and they say that operation is still
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under way to try to push those isis militants out of this area. remember, they took mosul, iraq's second largest city, back in june and much of the surrounding area, then early this month they took mosul dam. the peshmerga managed to retake control of it last week, bulls it's the surrounding villages and towns that still are under isis control. the peshmerga certainly moving through, pushing them out in their wake as they leave. isis is setting these oil wells alive, blowing up pipelines, creating plumes of black smoke. they're leaving ieds and land mines and there have been many peshmerga injuries as well. >> key decisions to make in iraq. possible operations in syria. ana core win and lieutenant general mark hertling. a phone call that may tell us more about where the missing malaysian plane disappeared back in march. we'll tell you all about this next. (vo) if you have type 2 diabetes,
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see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. in march. in march. we have new details on mh-370. that's the malaysian airlines jet that went missing in march with 239s people on board. airline staff say they tried to contact the crew by satellite phone after it dropped off the radar. >> but that call failed which means the plane may have turned south slightly earlier than previously thought. let's bring in our aviation analyst we have not seen in some time, haven't talked about this story in some time because there haven't been any new developments. does this feel significant to you and does it feel accurate and is it startling? >> those are great questions and
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well, so often happens with the story, it's difficult to interpret. it's been widely misinterpreted what happened today. the australians held a press conference and said they have new reason to believe that the turn -- that the plane turned south earlier than expected. that's not really quite entirely accurate. sort of have to read between the lines a little bit. now the plane -- this call you mentioned this was known about very long ago. so yes, there were two satellite telephone calls that were sent into the plane, so the plane received these calls. this is very interesting, because we know from this that the satellite telephone system was working. so there had been a lot of speculation that plane had suffered some kind of catastrophic damage and the plane couldn't communicate. the plane could communicate. this is an important point, known a long time in advance. of course it was known that malaysian airlines placed this call trying to find the missing plane. this isn't really new news. so it's a little baffling why it was presented as such.
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so the second part of this is that there was data associated with this call, the satellite is able to break down the frequency and the time of transmission from this phone call. and that tells us a little bit about where the plane was going. but this also was known and so what -- reading between the lines what we can infer is that the authorities have decided to make use of information which previously they had ignored and that new information allowed them to narrow down the search area and in the narrowing down it also -- they can also infer it went further south than they originally interpreted. >> searching the same basic area? >> yes, but there's several search areas, a priority search area, only a couple hundred miles long and then a wider search area which is more than 1500 miles long. so is it within the bigger search area that they're still looking or within the smaller search area. if it's still within the same high priority search area, you have to ask yourself, why do they even make this announcement at all. because they've never been particularly precise about explaining the details of why they're looking where they're looking.
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so they said we've only moved a little bit, but if it's only a tiny bit why did they announce this. >> transparency was never easy to come by in this investigation. great to have you back. >> we know not much more than we did all those days ago, those months ago really. it startled me when you said in march so much time has passed. take a short break. ahead "at this hour," we'll discuss a story, texas dad accused of killing the drunk driver who mowed down his sons and killed them. he's been acquitted. why did the jury return a nonguilty verdict? we'll ask our legal experts. thet new car smell and the freedom of the open road? a card that gave you that "i'm 16 and just got my first car" feeling. presenting the buypower card from capital one. redeem earnings toward part or even all of a new chevrolet, buick, gmc or cadillac - with no limits. so every time you use it, you're not just shopping for goods.
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all right. to a sister otory out of texas returned a nonguilty verdict for a man accused of killing a drunk driver. david barajas and his boys 12 and 11 were pushing their truck that stalled down a road in 201 not far from their home. jose banda ran into the truck killing the young boys. an eyewitness says barajas left the scene, leaned into banda's car, the witness heard a gunshot but did not see a gun. >> the defense claims the victim was a gang member and that someone else shot him and also the blood of a third unknown person was found in his car. i want to bring in legal analyst danny and hln analyst joey jackson. danny, start with you here.
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because we just downloaded a bunch of information right there. >> that's a lot. >> people want to know about this case is, did the jury decide for the defendant simply because they felt bad for him and felt that if he did, in fact, kill this man, he had a right to? couple things going on and one is probably what joey is thinking. jury nullification. juries have the power but never told they have this power, to issue -- ultimately when they go in the room they can decide on whatever verdict they want. they have the power even if a conviction should be had to acquit a defendant and may have exercised that although we as attorneys can never let them know they have that power. the other thing to add is this, this case is amazing because the jury clearly made some kind of credibility judgment on the two passengers in the victim's car because logically there's an inescapable conclusion here. they must have believed, the jury, those two guys in the car are the kind of guys who
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potentially could have done the murder because otherwise there just isn't any reasonable doubt. >> there was an eyewitness we spoke about. >> yes. >> talk about how that plays into all -- they're not the same witness in the vehicle. you have to follow the bouncing ball here. >> very problematic. as to the jury nullification issue, i first thought it might be that. that's when the jury gives you clemency, give you a pardon by virtue of sympathizing with you. >> killed his sons. >> but when you look at it more, john, i'm thinking there was reasonable doubt here why do i say that? look at the facts. no gun recovered. the police do a gun residue test on him. he has no gun powder on him, right. you look at that and then look at the fact that in a police officer's report they said they heard another shot coming from another direction. there was the witness back to your point, michaela, a witness that tried to say he had some choice words for the person that he killed and then following the choice words heard the gunshot. what do we know about that
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witness? felony record and in addition to that, he left the scene, in addition to that, he was a little high himself. and so when you put all of this together based upon the facts, you can reasonably conclude or unreasonably conclude that they had doubt in that case and it wasn't only jury nullification. >> is this a case of good lawyering here? >> always. >> where the attorney -- >> i think so. >> we have lost cases with less evidence than this. it's amazing. >> what you're doing is giving the jury enough reasonable doubt so they can vote what they want to vote which is to say, look i understand where this guy's heart was. >> i am with joey on the idea this could have been a jury nullification, but when you read -- even though there is a lot of very strong prosecution evidence, really that here's a guy, he's got a reason to kill and they found rounds and a holster in his house that ostensibly match the weapon the defense is essentially you can't prove it was me and amazingly enough based on the witnesses and people in the car, it
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apparently worked. but make no mistake about it, if the only witnesses and only passengers for the prosecution were a church group coming back from a bingo hall, this would have been a conviction. >> right. >> last thought. the victim is dead. >> yes. >> was drunk at the time. does his family have any recourse at all? >> they don't. i mean ultimately what happens, michaela, there's a process, that process the the prosecution tries to hold you to the proof. they could go after the family in a wrongful death action, they could go after the shooter here, but usually ins those actions, it's a different standard of proof, right, wrongful death saying you killed him, because it's civil, it's a preponderance the evidence, a lower standard than criminal which is beyond a reasonable doubt. that's their only recourse which is money. certainly criminality is done. he is not guilty. >> talking about victims, a lot of victims in this case to go around. joey and danny, thanks for being here. ahead, "at this hour," for a tv producer heading to a
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as the ebola virus continues its deadly march across west africa a highly anticipated weapon in the battle against the virus is moving out of the lab. >> starting next week, human testing is due to begin here in the united states on an experimental vaccine. joining us with more now, senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. elizabeth, tell us about this vaccine how promising, how long until we know whether it works? >> you know, john, it would be so great if we could just get this out there immediately, right. that would be so amazing. this process takes time. first they have to start with phase one where they try it out in a small group in 20 people. take a look at some of the basics of what they're trying to do here. they'll be giving this vaccine to healthy volunteers and then measuring whether they see an immune response when they take their blood. they'll be starting at nih and moving on to try this in u.k.,
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gambia and mali. one of two candidate vaccines. the one question that is so important, i mean usually this would take years, but they said look, we're going to finish this first part by late 2014, by late this year and have discussions about whether we want to bring the drug to africa like maybe directly to africa which usually they don't do that. usually they do more testing. they'll have discussions about when and how they get this to the people who need it. >> certainly promising news especially when today the who, the world health organization, is announcing this virus is spreading, kind of like wildfire. startling numbers about how many new cases there are. >> it is. what's really so sad about all of this, too, is that there's so much effort, i mean the world health organization, the cdc, so many people are trying to fight this and take a look at what the results have been so far. if you look at it there's been more than 1500 deaths, 3,000
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people have gotten sick with this virus and this is the part that's really so awful. 40% of these cases have occurred in the last three weeks. so in other words, this is not getting better. in fact, it appears to be getting worse. >> it shows the difficulty, though, you know, sometimes you have in fighting an outbreak like this. everyone now knows this is going on. everyone now knows where it's going on. yet it can't be stopped in its tracks, elizabeth? >> that's a great way to put it. awareness is not the issue. but we all know this now and so one of the issues is fear. i was talking to a cdc workers who was in africa for a month trying to do contact tracing and she would ask someone sick with ebola, tell me how many people have you been eating -- tell me the names of people you've been eating with and who you live with and might have had contact with your bodily fluids and she would often get an answer like my wife and that's it. she knew it was more than his wife, had had am faly, but
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didn't want to name people because in his community there was a rumor if you named someone they would die. not only would they die but they would die in the order they appeared on the list. when trying to fight those kinds of misconceptions it's difficult to contain an outbreak. >> tough battle. great to have you with us today. appreciate it. >> thanks. >> ahead "at this hour," as we continue our series on addiction, we will hear from a mom who saw the signs of drug abuse but just didn't believe them. so we went the extra mile, and made a car that does the same. the all-new chrysler 200. america's import tm
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all this week cnn is looking at addiction, deadly fixes. for one mother, there were signs but her son was so young. the truth is 28% of kid ps in this country have used alcohol by the eighth grade, more than 16% have tried marijuana. this can lead to the abuse of the prescription drugs often as close as a parent's medicine cabinet. >> the u.s. has six -- 5% rather of the people -- the world's people and uses 75% of its prescription drugs. this is startling statistics. it added up to a stark reality for this mom. her son is an addict. kelly wallace has our story. >> he loved to make you laugh. that would make him feel really good. he was on division one soccer. he was on basketball, he was on baseball. this is him and i when we were in a pool and i would be the
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cautious mother. >> what did it feel like when you felt like he was addicted to prescription drugs? >> well, at first i didn't realize she was i would find pill bottles with no names on them, so it was just a straight bottle. sometimes i would find straws. sometimes i would find spoons. i would google everything and started realizing, there's a problem here. you start questioning yourself, did i fail him in some way? there's a stigma attached to it. the bottom line is it's a disease. >> how hard was that stigma for you? >> i really suffered in silence, and it's a horrible place to be because you end up crying yourself to sleep. you start going back in time and looking at how they used to be. >> for all mothers who have children who are addicted, it is
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that balance between supporting your loved one and enabling. >> his hand was always out. always out. >> how scary was that when you said, done, the enabling stops? >> i started to think to myself, well, if he's so darn clever to get the drugs, he can be clever enough to find a piece of pizza somewhere, you know? okay, you sleep in your car. well, that's your choice. so i grew a little bit stronger. but i really grew strong with the addicts mom. i mean, that group was my saving grace. it truly was. i saw women who were having the same problems that i was having. only our children's names were different. ♪ >> reporter: what's the number one piece of advice you'd give any mom watching who has an addict as a child? >> well, i think try to get them into -- into rehab.
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scare them straight almost. but i really think that you have to start talking to your children when they're young. and warn them about everything. i don't want to hear another mother getting a knock at the door saying their son or daughter is dead. i don't want one mother out there suffering in silence and feel she has nowhere to go. >> that was kelly wallace reporting. for more of her report, you need to visit cnn.com/living. you can also find ways to help addicts by visiting cnn.com/deadlyfix. ahead this hour, an award-winning african-american business executive and tv producer ends up there, in handcuffs, on a curb in beverly hills. why? he says he fit the description. my interview with him next.
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police in beverly hills have apologized to an award-winning businessman and tv producer for this. charles belk seen here handcuffed and sitting on a curb was arrested friday because police say he fit the description of a suspect in a bank robbery. >> yeah, belk was detained for six hours. he missed a pre-emmy party that he was supposed to be attending in a business capacity. earlier today i asked him what happened after he was arrested. take a listen to part of my interview from today on "new day." >> eventually -- so after sitting down for about two or three minutes, that was when -- first it was just one cop. then there were about four, five, six more cops came. one came right out of the car and immediately came over to me, approached me very aggressively, hand me stand up, patted me down, put handcuffs on me and then indicated that i needed to sit back down on the curb. took a very strong kind of approach with me. but again, i did not want to give them any reason to think
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that i was not going to cooperate. so i sat out there probably for 45 minutes to an hour on the curb on busy los angeles boulevard which i'm sure you're familiar with, rush hour traffic on friday, on emmy awards weekend. >> everybody's watching. >> emmy awards weekend. everybody's watching me. so i sat there with my head down in handcuffs on the curb. >> this is how you expected your day to go at all, and i'm sure people were expecting you where you were supposed to be conducting business. at any point, were you able to protest, sort of explain who you were, what you were doing? you are an award-winning professional. you are a person that is, you know, well respected in your community for the work you do and philanthropic ventures. were you able to tell them that you were the wrong guy? >> a lieutenant came over, and he -- that's probably five or ten minutes into it. he then kind of explained the situation. there was a bank robbery, a little bit pore, and that's when i went into hey, look.
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i own a company. i consult in the industry. you know, i consult with various organizations. i did not rob a bank. i did not do anything. but once they asked me to stand up, get into their car, they kind of, you know, pushed -- got me into the back -- not pushed, i'm sorry -- but got me into the back of the police car and hauled me away to the station, i still didn't know what was going on, what i was being charged for. i was all the time thinking to myself, this will sort itself out. >> well, and it did. >> clearly there were cameras. >> it did because you were able to call a friend. they called the naacp. they were able to get you out. you're now free. they have apologized. is that apology enough for you? >> well, so i appreciate that apology. let me just clarify you on one point. i actually was not able to call a friend. a friend was there with me. >> oh. >> explaining to the officer that we had just finished eating. we were just around the corner. i kind of yelled back to my friend. i was, like, please call so and
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so. he called a friend of mine, robin harrison from the naacp hollywood bureau who then called an attorney. if it wasn't for that, i think i really would have been on my own at that police station. when i got to the beverly hills police station and once they went through the process of taking my fingerprints, taking my photo, they had taken my belt, my shoes, my wallet, everything out of my wallet, i asked them -- i said, wow, this is a real -- this is like a nightmare. and one of the officers -- the booking officer said to me, "this is a serious crime you committed." >> oh. >> and i thought to myself, i've been convicted. >> well, what's interesting here is there was video from the bank from the robbery. and if they had looked at that earlier, police had, they would have realized that he did not fit the description. they looked very different. once they finally did, he was freed, but that was after six hours. >> unbelievable. want to give you a little bit of information that we're just getting into cnn.
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a lot of people are talking about this on twitter. joan rivers was rushed to the hospital. cnn has been told that she was not breathing at the time. a source close to joan rivers has just confirmed that. again, as i said, a lot of people have been talking about this online. we want to fill you in. >> following some sort of throat surgery. she stopped breathing. that's the latest we know. stick with ccnn. thanks for joining us. i'm michaela pereira. >> i'm john berman. "legal view with ashleigh banfield" starts now. russian tanks storming ukraine. ukrainian forces on the run. their commanders calling this a full-scale invasion. all the while, moscow saying it's all a lie. how will the u.s. and the world respond? also this hour, you thought isis was a bunch of ragtag radicals. think again. we'll shou

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